Hello everyone.
This post is not about business, although I’m sure there are points for business in it. If you are strongly influenced by Neptune you will relate to it; if not, why not come along for the ride anyway? (If you don’t know how strongly you are influenced by Neptune, check out “How Strong is Your Neptune? Here’s the Score!”)
Last week on Donna Cunningham’s blog a discussion developed among people with a strong Neptune influence in their chart. Many people were sharing that they are so sensitive to other people’s energy that they find it hard to be in groups of people and many generally prefer to be alone.
I made a comment on Donna’s blog and when she read it she asked me to say more about how I learned to blend my energies with other people. This post is my reply to Donna and the whole group. My comment was:
I used to hate being in groups but now I’ve learned to blend my energy with others when I want to and actually love being around compatible people. Even events like ball games are fun now, because I can “become” the people around me and have a blast.
And some background
As a child I was raised with very strict, in fact, military, discipline. In astrological terms you would say with a very strong Saturn influence. The atmosphere in my home produced three results, all related to Neptune:
- I tended to withdraw into spiritual and romantic fantasies because it was the only place I had any power;
- I had no sense of personal boundaries as they were infringed upon daily by an overbearing authority figure;
- I didn’t develop a sense of self-discipline because there was so much external discipline imposed upon me.
I entered young adulthood drifting from place to place and person to person with very little sense of or appetite for “real life.” I was very open to the underlying currents of situations but had only a minimal sense of self-protection. I was uncomfortable in almost all social situations, from the smallest dinner party to the largest stadium event. I wanted nothing to do with rules or structure of any kind. My Neptune energy was very active but my Saturn energy was completely undeveloped.
So how did all this change? After thinking about this for a few days, I have to say it has to do with boundaries. In astrological terms you would say I developed my inner Saturn.
A Line in the Sand
My awareness of my own Saturn began with a situation when the current authority figure in my life asked me to do something I just couldn’t do, to cross a line I just couldn’t cross. It was the first time I stood up and said NO to someone; to put what I felt and cared about in front of my fear of losing someone I loved.
This situation brought my first sense of my own authority; before that I was unaware that I had any. And it felt so good to protect myself and be willing to risk everything for it. I did lose everything from that decision, but that loss turned into self-reliance, education, my own business, building a house, and raising a child. Of course, the unfolding of this inner authority took many years, but little by little I learned about a rock solid place inside myself that was my safe haven, and I learned to honor it.
A Tiny Incident, A Major Shift
In some people, once they find the self-protective instinct of Saturn it becomes an enclosure that they can’t find their way out of. Other more Neptunian types are so prone to giving their power to others that they can never stand up for themselves. Neither of these lasted long for me and for this I credit my spiritual teacher. It’s funny how a tiny incident can lead to a major life change.
One day I was in a large room with my teacher and several hundred other people. A woman came up to the teacher and the teacher noticed that the woman was wearing a locket around her neck in the shape of a heart, and the locket was open. She said to the woman, “Your locket is open.” And the woman looked down and said, “That’s because my heart is always open.” And the teacher said, “Ah, but you have to learn to open it and to close it.”
This incident sparked a whole new understanding of boundaries for me. Until that time I thought a “spiritual” person had to have their heart constantly splayed out in order to be truly open. I learned that my boundaries are my own and they are malleable according to my discrimination and my will. My circle can expand to encompass the whole of the universe; or I can contract that circle to the smallest sphere so that only my family is invited inside. That’s the key: I’ve learned that I am the gatekeeper. What I invite inside is welcome inside. What I don’t invite doesn’t come in.
Now for the fun part
This has completely freed my life. Now I can go to the most raucous ballgame and whole-heartedly join the crowd and have a blast. Nothing is more fun than to lose myself in the glee of a shared victory. But when I leave the stadium and step into the streets of New York I draw my shield of self-protection close around me.
I can go to a park and meld into nature, but then I sit at my desk and focus on accounting or tax work. I expand or contract as the situation requires. I can close my heart and move right through a dangerous minefield of negativity and then open it again to relax into the vibrations of a loving friend.
So my story comes down to learning self-authority, boundaries, and discrimination, all Saturn qualities. Once I learned to internalize the authoritarian face of Saturn, it turned into self-protection. And once I learned self-protection, I learned I can blend as much or as little as I will – it’s my choice.
#1 by Rebecca on April 2nd, 2010
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Ellen,
This is just excellent. You open yourself and share truths that you have learned. You write well and every point you make is one we can take with us and use. Just beautiful. Thank you! Love you.
Becca
#2 by Donna Cunningham on April 4th, 2010
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This is a wonderful article, Ellen! I’m so glad you wrote it. The part I love most is about the locket and what your teacher said about the need to open and close it the heart chakra.
I’ve been struggling for about a year in a dialogue with my own heart chakra. I have been so pained by the sorrow of people in the world at large–such a terrible time we’re in–that I often cry watching the news or just thinking of how many are in desperate economic trouble. My heart chakra wants to shut down tightly and stay shut to avoid feeling all this pain, and I just don’t think that’s good or even physically healthy. So we’re in an ongoing dialogue about it. Donna
#3 by Ellen Longo on April 4th, 2010
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Thank you Donna for your comments, and also for instigating a week of contemplation for me! Thank you for sharing your struggle. I understand your weeping heart, and I agree it’s not healthy to shut it down tightly. When I feel this way I focus on the people and send them my love and blessings. I feel that this is my part to play and that, though subtle, I am contributing to the end of their suffering.
#4 by Ellen Longo on April 4th, 2010
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Thank you Becca. It’s nice to know it hit home with you and I consider a writing compliment from you a real compliment! Love, Ellen
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hmmm….. love this. very important stuff for me to remember. oh Ellen, you are a treasure!!
#6 by Ellen Longo on April 21st, 2011
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Thanks, Tesa. I just heard that another blogger wants to guest feature this post on their blog and she found it because you left your comment and she was subscribed to the comments! So thanks again! I’m so excited!
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Ellen, this is an excellent article, full of very sound advice and personal insights about how your Saturn was undeveloped, due to external disciplines put on to you ( out of well-intentioned love,at the time) and yet your Neptune needed to come out and be expressed healthily) and you travelled to get the balance right.
This is something, I’m definitely going to use and tell others about. I have Neptune in the 4th (Scorpio) and Saturn in the 8th (Pisces). They both trine each other, and I think in many ways, they actually work very well together, now I come to think about it.
I used to hate my Saturn in Pisces, as I was very afraid of it, and it squares my moon and mercury (in Sagittarius) and opposes my Uranus/Pluto… So my Saturn is stronger than my Neptune . I was always thinking how Saturn was limiting and cramping my style, until I realised it adds a framework or structure to what you need to do, especially if you actually put in the work. I think the Saturn grounds the Neptune and helps with accessing the positive sides of Neptune, so I think all the artistic and spiritual side of Neptune can become solid and real, with work- I am not disillusioned, I have a sense of reality. So, I am realistic and practical at the same time as being artistic and spiritual, and “dreamy”.
Although my moon and mercury are Fire, it aspects with a Pisces /water planet, so people have always seen me as both a sensitive/intuitive person and have commented on it.
I think having Neptune on the angle, has a further impact.
For example, I have been involved with lot of dream work (having a dream journal) and have been able to use dreams as real day to day guides, so putting those ideas into action or writing, since my dreams are very accurate; I am very intuitive and my intuition is more often than not, spot on . Saturn helps me with creating boundaries with others- be it in groups or one-to one. I am entitled to it, I keep telling myself, as it’s so easy to be overwhelmed : I have Jupiter in the 11th house of groups ( so I think having a crowded social/group life is a very distinct possibility! So time alone is invaluable).
The balance is knowing when to be a team player and when to be on one’s own , so in either situation, one does not feel lonely /overwhelmed in a crowd, nor lonely, isolated and alienated when alone. Thanks Ellen for sharing.
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